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       Re: Professional Wrestlers - mackryan08 5/16 1:54 PM (show all)  Views 112622
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Originally posted by mmahorn:
Originally posted by Esoteric2112:
From what the guys used to say, Dusty Rhodes was one of the best bookers in the business.

Mike
I've heard just the opposite. His style of keeping the title because of a DQ was used so much that it became known as the "dusty finish".
Maybe I just hung out with Dusty's friends? ;-) And anyway the idea os keeping the title on a DQ became THE gimmick for heel wrestlers and still works today. It was very innovative and has become an industry standard. Care to weigh in caldonna? You have far more experience in this realm than I.

Mike

This post was edited on 5/13 12:22 PM by Esoteric2112



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Originally posted by Esoteric2112:



Originally posted by mmahorn:



Originally posted by Esoteric2112:
From what the guys used to say, Dusty Rhodes was one of the best bookers in the business.

Mike

I've heard just the opposite. His style of keeping the title because of a DQ was used so much that it became known as the "dusty finish".

Maybe I just hung out with Dusty's friends? ;-) And anyway the idea os keeping the title on a DQ became THE gimmick for heel wrestlers and still works today. It was very innovative and has become an industry standard. Care to weigh in caldonna? You have far more experience in this realm than I.

Mike

This post was edited on 5/13 12:22 PM by Esoteric2112



Actually, a "Dusty Finish" was letting the face go over at the arena, and letting the fans go home happy that they saw a title switch. Then, they turn on the tube on Saturday and discover that the decision had been reversed for whatever reason. It was effective to get heat on the champion and sympathy for the face, and it extended the program with everyone believing that the face could win the title if only he could get a break. The big payoff came with a blowoff match that was a gimmick, say a cage or no dq match. Where Dusty screwed up was that the heel would win, but not really conclusivley. It was more of a "face steps on a bannana peel" type of ending (my favorite example was that Lex Lugar suffered a cut during the big blowoff against Flair; since they were in Baltimore, the state athletic commisoion mandated all matches be stopped at first sight of blood, even though Lugar had Flair up in the rack at the time). After a while, it killed the title, and it killed interest because no one believed a face would win.

Had Rhodes tweeked it just enough that a face--say Nikita Koloff or Lugar--eventually won the belt, it would have put things right. You don't have to make it a long reign, either. You could let Flair regain the belt in some out of the way arena

Hey, the best ECW manager was Quintissential Studmuffin, Joel "So Big I couldn't help hurtin' her" Gertner.

Cg

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That is fascinating. For all the stories of the production side of things, I know very little about how wrestling actually works. I have heard lots of stories, but I never really talked to any of the bookers about what they did and why. That is the side of the business I find fascinating.

I do know we got really, really tired of JBL and his stupid limo entrance as champ. Talk about a pain in the a** for us on the production side. And we thought Mark's motorcycle was bad.

Mike



Posted on 5/13 3:38 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by Esoteric2112:
That is fascinating. For all the stories of the production side of things, I know very little about how wrestling actually works. I have heard lots of stories, but I never really talked to any of the bookers about what they did and why. That is the side of the business I find fascinating.

I do know we got really, really tired of JBL and his stupid limo entrance as champ. Talk about a pain in the a** for us on the production side. And we thought Mark's motorcycle was bad.

Mike


Del Rio does the same thing with his Bently/Rolls Royce/Maserati every week. That's got to drive the production guys nuts.



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Originally posted by mackryan08:
Originally posted by Esoteric2112:
That is fascinating. For all the stories of the production side of things, I know very little about how wrestling actually works. I have heard lots of stories, but I never really talked to any of the bookers about what they did and why. That is the side of the business I find fascinating.

I do know we got really, really tired of JBL and his stupid limo entrance as champ. Talk about a pain in the a** for us on the production side. And we thought Mark's motorcycle was bad.

Mike


Del Rio does the same thing with his Bently/Rolls Royce/Maserati every week. That's got to drive the production guys nuts.
Well, we only used half of the arena so the actual size of the limo wasn't that bad in that scale (we would roll the entire 19 semis that the show came in into the arena at once), but we had to build a huge backstage platform to have it on, a LONG ramp to get it up there, and then the driver (who was a stunt driver) had to drive it very carefully (once when the driver had a stomach bug, a local guy drove the car and drove the right front wheel off of the stage, did $15000 of damage). It was out there "in view" for about a minute, but it took an extra 8-10 stage hands and 2 hours or so to get it out there. What a pain.

Mike



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I used to love when stone cold would drive a beer truck in



Posted on 5/13 4:43 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by 40acrefanatic:
I used to love when stone cold would drive a beer truck in

or Kurt Angle and the milk truck.



Posted on 5/13 4:51 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by fatfootball101:
Originally posted by 40acrefanatic:
I used to love when stone cold would drive a beer truck in

or Kurt Angle and the milk truck.
N I G H T M A R E!!

Mike



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We should think about getting a bunch of us together for an Orangebloods Cauliflower Alley convention in Austin.

Esoteric, I find the stuff you production guys do as minor miracles. It must've been a righteous pain in the scrotum to build the haunted ring that bounced up and down, or gimmicking the ring to collapse when Brock superplexed Wight AFTER a whole wrestling card and a 20 minute match.

I remember a show we had where Sabu was wrestling Terry Funk. Back then, Brunk loved doing moonsaults through tables. Well, he usually used gimmicked particle board tables. One of the greenhorns in production wasn't paying attention and swapped out the announce table with one of Sabu's. Ours was made with layered plywood (the sort you find at church picnics. Sabu drags one table, climbs the ropes, and breaks it with no trouble. The second is our table (I noticed it too late). Sabu moonsauts it, and id doesn't budge. Terry does it again. Still nothing. He does it again. Three strikes.

By know, he is really hurting, but dammit, he was going to break the table. Brunk climbs the ropes one last time and does a Bombs Away. The table finally breaks.

Backstage, Sabu was furious. His shins were bruised badly, he was in serious pain, and he had a scratched up by the plywood. The greenhorn was nowhere to be found. We never saw him again.

Cg

This post was edited on 5/13 5:26 PM by caldonna



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Originally posted by caldonna:
We should think about getting a bunch of us together for an Orangebloods Cauliflower Alley convention in Austin.

Esoteric, I find the stuff you production guys do as minor miracles. It must've been a righteous pain in the scrotum to build the haunted ring that bounced up and down, or gimmicking the ring to collapse when Brock superplexed Wight AFTER a whole wrestling card and a 20 minute match.

I remember a show we had where Sabu was wrestling Terry Funk. Back then, Brunk loved doing moonsaults through tables. Well, he usually used gimmicked particle board tables. One of the greenhorns in production wasn't paying attention and swapped out the announce table with one of Sabu's. Ours was made with layered plywood (the sort you find at church picnics. Sabu drags one table, climbs the ropes, and breaks it with no trouble. The second is our table (I noticed it too late). Sabu moonsauts it, and id doesn't budge. Terry does it again. Still nothing. He does it again. Three strikes.

By know, he is really hurting, but dammit, he was going to break the table. Brunk climbs the ropes one last time and does a Bombs Away. The table finally breaks.

Backstage, Sabu was furious. His shins were bruised badly, he was in serious pain, and he had a scratched up by the plywood. The greenhorn was nowhere to be found. We never saw him again.

Cg

This post was edited on 5/13 5:26 PM by caldonna

Yeah, those particle board tables will break if you fill your plate too much. Sometimes we would have 10 or 15 of them under the stage most of the time. Some young kid on the local crew got to unload them.

The trick to the superplex was the stage hand under the ring the whole card. The spot where Brock was going to drop him was reinforced temporarily for the rest of the card, and then when it was time, he removed the reinforcement.

But the Mick Foley slam through the ring was not rigged. We thought he might have died. But that happened a few times with Mick.

I hated setting up the specialty matches. The elimination chamber was really funny when we were trying to set it up for the first time. There were about 5 of us with over 150 years of experience between us. We could not get the stupid thing figured out. All we had was an artists sketch and a big pile of steel fencing materials, chain, and a welder. It took us about 48 hours of straight work to figure it out and another week to assemble it.

That sucked.

When the wrestlers were trying it out, several of them had problems. RVD went up to see how it would look for the frog splash (where he famously injured Paul). He said "cool" right before he misstepped and fell on to the gym mats.

Mike



Posted on 5/13 6:29 PM | IP: Logged

I remember watching Foley's HITC match. I had a hunch Mick was going do something crazy. When he got thrown off the top, I knew it was set up (and told the people I was with). When he went through the cage, you could tell it was an accident, especially when the chair hit him in the face. Who went Funk and everyone else to fight with Mark to stall to give Mick time?

How the Hell did you guys ever avoid a Metallica moment with the pyros?

Cg



Posted on 5/13 6:40 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by caldonna:
I remember watching Foley's HITC match. I had a hunch Mick was going do something crazy. When he got thrown off the top, I knew it was set up (and told the people I was with). When he went through the cage, you could tell it was an accident, especially when the chair hit him in the face. Who went Funk and everyone else to fight with Mark to stall to give Mick time?

How the Hell did you guys ever avoid a Metallica moment with the pyros?

Cg
Yeah, we knew Mick was going to be slammed on top of the cage, and I think he knew he would go through. He wasn't upset at the crew or anything. Of course they warned him it was very dangerous but you know Mick. The riggers knew he would go through unless he landed on the truss. Well he landed right in the middle of the cage section, so down he went. The story that the designer told him that it would sag and not break was a lie. Placement on that was very important. Which is odd that they missed, because Mark was a very precise wrestler (hence why he was able to continue using the pile driver after it was banned).

I forgot what happened. We were all freaked out wondering if Mick was dead, if we needed to send paramedics, or what. No one had to tell Mark to stall, he was good, but I forget what all was going on. I was a spot operator and I could see down into the cage. It really looked like he had broken his neck. His tooth ended up in his nose.

There is a funny story that when Mick really started getting his wits about him back stage he asked Mark "did I use the thumbtacks?", Mark said "are you kidding?" and pointed at Mick's arm. There in his arm were still half a dozen thumbtacks.

I tell you what cal, the guys who got pyro were only the best performers. Then they would practice it a lot with compressed air.

Some guys, like RVD, had very little interaction with their pyro. Some guys, like Bautista, have pyro that although it looks cool was no risk of hurting anyone. Plus, with all the safeties there was very little chance of an accident. We had some of the best pyro guys in the business setting it up and running it. I know for Bautista's setup two guys were on deadman switches before the effect could be cued. Kane's setup had tow deadman switches and the ignition button was under one of those locking plastic lids like they use for nuclear missile launch buttons. I think again Tazz was the most in danger of anyone I saw.

Mike



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rear most of this thread very interesting stuff...

if you want to laugh a bit see if you can find the ole' roy mercer trank on bill goldberg...really funny...



Posted on 5/13 4:13 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by Esoteric2112:
From what the guys used to say, Dusty Rhodes was one of the best bookers in the business.

Mike
I've heard just the opposite. His style of keeping the title because of a DQ was used so much that it became known as the "dusty finish".



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